For some reason, I found myself reading an opinion piece in Australia’s public media this morning. The author is one Alex Carlton. Here’s what she looks like…
hot? or not?
Mizz Carlton would like all the boys to know that she “has no time for criticism of single mums,” and she’s here specifically to take a man named Richard Cooper to task. Cooper had the audacity to produce a youtube video about some dysfunctional traits that one will find when he dates a single mom.
A few points:
- Children are expensive. When you date a wimminz who has little kids, you will not only be paying more money, but you’ll also be expected to part with more of your time. You can work smarter to make up for the first, but the amount of moments in your life is finite, and there’s no way to turn back the hour-hand in your life.
- Wimminz will put their kids before you. This is totally understandable, as one’s family ought to be more important than whatever person you are fucking.
Why this stupid wimminz is disputing these simple facts, I really don’t know. Neither of them seems controversial.
Mizz Carlton includes lots of screenshots of Richard Cooper’s video in her article, as she tries to paint him in the worst possible light. I found Cooper’s video in less than a minute, and thought I’d put a link up here. It’s actually quite sensible and evenhanded. I encourage all men to listen and learn.
I’m somewhat surprised to report that I take Mizz Carlton’s side on one specific point. A man doesn’t necessarily have a zero ROI on a child he takes in. There are men we all know who have married single mothers, and other men we all know who have adopted children. These may be worthwhile pursuits for a man. All Cooper’s broad strokes aside, the general theme of his message is accurate. It is almost always easier to breed up your own kids the old-fashioned way.
Bitch has now moved into criticizing the men who are commenting on Cooper’s video. How dare these filthy men think for themselves, she asks… and further, how dare they share their lived experiences among themselves without wimminz to moderate?
Because YouTube is owned by Google, I expect the video and all its comments to disappear at some point. I went and gathered a couple of realtalk comments of my own. Let’s see what the brothers have to say…
Sounds like Anthony had a really great time running with his ho’.
Mono Lith doesn’t go into too much detail, but the experience of dating skank-ho single moms seems to have made an impression on him as well.
Kruno 45 paints a pretty bleak picture of dating skank-ho single moms.
I can hear many wimminz and simps now. What they’ll inevitably bring up are experiences like Derek’s adoptions, or Scott’s successful marriage. It’s certainly true that not every experience with single mothers or fatherless kids is a disaster, but the statistics are fairly brutal, and no educated man makes an important decision without examining common channels that lead to calamity.
Like the typical skank-ho single mom, Mizz Carlton just has to throw in selfies with her embarrassing autoencomium. I find it pretty difficult to believe that this slag was entirely self-sufficient, but even if she were, so what? That would only make her an outlier.
Single mothers aren’t “warriors,” they’re a cancer on society, and probably the greatest disaster that any society has ever faced. They may well be the end of western civilization in the next few generations, in fact.
I guess Richard Cooper isn’t going to get a chance to nail Alex or any of her skank-ho single mom friends. I’m sure he’s all broken up about it.
Have you gentlemen ever dated a single mother? How did it go? Sound if you have a minute; and, remember to say ‘no’ to the ho’, and refuse to date a single mom.
My kids’ dance teacher is about to get married (for the first time) to Mr. Milquetoast. Her two children were fathered, respectively, by a molester who’s disappeared from the scene and a (supposedly) abusive person who frightens them all so much that they’re in therapy. (Mr. Milquetoast is terrified of Baby Daddy 2.) If Mr. Milquetoast were my friend or relation, I’d tell him to run for the hills.
My friend is getting divorced (her husband cheated on her and told her he didn’t want to be married to her anymore–and she had problems respecting him before then). My mother is hoping she’s on Match.com finding a man who’d be worthy of her. Um. She’s my age (37), with 4 kids and debt. She needs to work on doing what’s best for her kids and keeping her head above water, not fishing for men who will probably be looking for an easy lay. (For the record, my friend’s lifetime n=1.) Although she’d be a much, much better prospect than my kids’ dance teacher, the reality is that dating her would still come with significant detriments.
Because he spoke the truth about her.
Single mothers…rather than going the supremely humble and feminine route in order to attract a good man to perhaps become the adopted father…go full bore on how great and amazing they are and how their kids will come first.
Well we’ve seen it even with women who have no kids…the more puffed up their ego, the crazier they get when any adversity comes.
Wasn’t really a date…but I did fall into the trap of thinking it could work with one. To say her life was dysfunctional is putting it kindly. Loved the alcohol and the carousel. Her parents probably did more raising of the kids than she did.
That said…I’ve also fell into the trap with women who are single with no kids who are also dysfunctional. It was the beginning of my awakening to not choose women based off lust, feelings, or rationalizations.
“I’m not a…..”
Yeah, and that one rattlesnake out there that would never bite anyone will say “Well I’D never bite anyone, so how dare people have bad words for us rattlesnakes”!
A good idea is to just never pick up a rattlesnake instead of hope the one your picking up is the one that won’t bite.
I think I’ve stated this before…and I’m glad my father told me this back in the day (he dated a divorced single mother before he met my mother)
‘Don’t clean up another man’s mess.’
Earl:
Would you consider writing a little effortpoast? You can make it semi-autobiographical. I’d love a bit of detail about how you met this woman, how she attracted you, when the penny dropped, and her antics after she assumed you were on the hook. A paragraph about the breakup process would also be awesome.
While I’m asking Earl, this is an open invitation.
Clearly I can’t make you do this, but I think it’d be helpful to any future readers to get a handle on exactly what one might expect when he goes down this path.
Another good example of the goddess complex when it comes to women. More or less to summarize the hamster droppings from Alex Carlton: What she says is the truth as a valiant single mother and how dare anyone else challenge it! Much less a pathetic worm like Richard Cooper that doesn’t know his proper place, or the pathetic pieces of garbage that commented!
It’s pretty typical that there’s always “alternative facts” at work when it comes to the mind of women and that there will be men that will accept them hook, line, and sinker. Nevermind the real ones at play that Richard Cooper.
>Wimminz will put their kids before you. This is totally understandable, as one.s family ought to be more important than whatever person you are fucking
On that level, I could probably agree. If you look at a marriage level though, especially in Christian environments, the wimminz need to be able to put her husband before the children so the family unit as a whole can function well. Think discipline in the family home, but other factors. I often read of the cases where an idiotic man mans-up and marries a single mother. He ends up just being a third-wheel despised by everybody involved as the household just continues on the same as it always did before he came along. Ultimately it robs the kids of the father figure that they really need.
Of course, I could say this a lot of first marriages with the kids born within the union. Ultimately, a wife’s respect needs to go towards her husband first and foremost or the marriage is simply doomed from the start.
@Boxer…
I met her at the particular work place we were at. She was certainly still attractive looking (red heads are the death of me) and we had similar sense of humor so that was probably the attraction. I knew she had three kids…but then eventually I started to find out they were from two different fathers and even one of the fathers I found out I was distantly related to.
We would often go to similar parties where alcohol was available. She would often go full party mode when the father had the kids for the weekend. She also had flings with a few guys (at least the ones I was aware of).
Back then I was in a crazy time in my life so I didn’t see the red flags as clearly as now…but I hung out with her and basically the end of it came during a drunken make out session she told me she was ‘raped’ at 15. Why in that alcholic stupor I finally got the clarity it was then that I regreted ever getting involved. I think she sensed that and we mutually broke whatever was going on with us. I remember to this day I said out loud…’I never felt so relieved.’
What I didn’t do was ever spend a lot of money on her…meet her kids…or become her full time simp. So I did save face there.
Long story short…even if she’s attractive to you, single mothers are corrosive.
Of course during this time too I met another red head at a party (this one single, no kids) and agreed to what I thought was a date with her. This date consisted of going to a party where I met a group of her ‘friends’ and it turned out one of the guys was her ‘make out session’ guy or something. So I made the mistake of riding to the party in her vehicle because she knew where it was at…her and this other guy disappear for like 4 hours and I’m just here at this party not knowing anybody hoping that I’m not spending the night there. Fortunately she did eventually return (after doing God knows what) and took me back to my vehicle. I don’t think I spoke one word to her because I just wanted to get back to my car. I think that was the last red head I’ve been involved with.
And since then if I do a date…I make all the plans and I drive myself to it. I don’t give ladies that quick of trust anymore.
So yeah when ladies want to whine about real things that happen to guys and trying to warn their fellow brothers…understand a lot of this doesn’t just come out of a vacuum.
Earl: Sent you an email. Feel free to hit me up if you didn’t receive it: box210@protonmail.com
I dated a few divorced MILF’s during the time in between my marriages. They never even introduced me to their kids. One of them, who was a church worship leader, beat her son and locked him in his room so that she could have some alone time with me. That was the first and last time I saw her. Another one, also a nominal “Christian” (because I only dated those who claimed to be Christians), got her rocking jollies off of me for two weeks before she chucked me for the next guy on her list. (She was a good cook though.) One left her teenage daughter at home alone all night while she stayed out with me. Another one still lived with her ex, and was seeing other guys besides me.
Because of these tenuous situations, I didn’t stick around very long for any of them. But I humbly learned that women will go absolutely nutz for some c*ck! Those last three were desperately horny. I mean, they are out of their minds! I think most guys don’t really know the “imperative” part of the Feminine Imperative. It’s like, RIGHT NOW!!! A fresh divorce will do that to you. I’m sure that’s why Jesus said, “Anyone who divorces his wife causes her to commit adultery.”
I always wondered, what would it be like to have a mother like that? I felt sorry for the kids. I also didn’t want any child of mine to have them as their mom. But the thing that scared me the most was wondering how many of those “childless” women I dated were childless because of repeated visits to the Planned Parenthood clinic. I’ll never know the answer to those questions, but I might guess that the average whimz has 2 to 3 prenatal D&C “evacuations” before they get serious about actually becoming a mother. Man, that’s harrowing!
God save us from the Feminine Imperative!
The single moms I know (at work there is one……my volunteering and connections to The Salvation Army…..women I knew from my college years) usually:
Have a pretty active dating life for being “so busy” and “struggling” to make ends meet. The single moms I knew in The Salvation Army in Fresno who were not members, but attendees of our Corps dated quite a bit.
If you are going to date / court or get-to-know a single mom her kids DO come first……..and if they don’t maybe you as a man should not be involved and understand what made her a single mom to begin with. Even if that kid is a teenager.
What gets me and gets me to scratch my head is the single moms with BABIES and TODDLERS that have TIME to date. If the kid is a little older, I could understand, but at that tender age, little ones that age need parents and its a round the clock job…..and a hard one. Any woman who has a baby and is “out dating” should be avoided and there was a time when that was the case……..but all the “alphas” and “real men” out there who are banging nines and tens for some reason always spend a crazy amount of time with women like this. The thirst is real.
I would date a single mom if: husband has died (war, tragic accident at work, car wreck, the plane crashed…’nuff said), or if indeed the woman in question understood her role in why she is indeed a single mom (I was a stupid young girl / I was just dumb / I was a harpy and drove him away / it was both of us….but I understand what I did wrong and what was indeed my fault in the matter) and if the kid was beyond the baby / toddler stage. I would have to see repentance, watch, gently observe and see that she indeed has changed or is indeed ready….not for DATING….but for a HUSBAND.
Any “strong-amazing-single-mom” talk will drive me away.
I have never had any single moms interested in me anyway……and that chapter of my life is even ending ( for awhile I thought…okay…..not gonna score the 25 year old girl……..open the options, be a step dad….marry that woman who is a single mom). Now in 2019…….I am accepting that I will never be married, nor a father, or steap-dad so my reply here is kind of absurd actually……………..
This single mom from Oz? She’s going to be a life long single….sure, plenty of guys are gonna pump n dump….and she’ll think they’re serious…….because the type of man that goes for the single mom is usually the guy over 35 who is pretty much a “past player” or a man who is already married………the “upright” man she wants? He’s in church, and that is a place where she will never set foot
Richard copper love him
>the .upright. man she wants? He.s in church, and that is a place where she will never set foot
Actually they will and have for years. That’s why feminist toadies in the church like Albert Mohler, et. al. are choosing to shout man-up rants at the men and people like Glenn T. Stanton of Focus On The Female are exalting the “heroic single mothers” and that many of these same kind of figures are blaming men for what these women just had to do in response to the men. Poor dears just couldn’t find good enough men so they had to jump to the motherhood part – after all they’re that way because the men that knocked them up wouldn’t man-up and marry them like any good Christian man should do. This is also part of the reason we have the idea of the “born-again virgin” – and all of these traditionalists just saying that we have a whole host of chaste virgin available women and these men just not jumping on it. It’s the feminist delusion and these women will flock there because they know they can find leadership that will commiserate with them, buy into their “alternative facts”, and support their delusion instead of making them to take responsibility for their actions.
There will be a lot of Sunday Morning Nightclub players and Churchian soyboys that’ll jump at the chance because they buy into all the fecal matter these guys are shoveling, but any true upright Christian man will be wise to see them for what they are and avoid them.
My old (pre-Red Pill) self married the single mom of a pre-teen daughter and embarked on a two decade-long journey through Hell that only ended when the bitch inevitably fully imploded and blew it all up. My born-again RP self pulled the divorce trigger (after she moved out she cheated on me twice with some guy who must have been blind, deaf, and lacking in olfactory senses), although she thought I’d suffer in silence and humiliate myself out of hopeless desperation. Wrong. She’s now a broken (and broke), lonely cat lady.
If I could go back in time as an unseen observer and make a documentary film of my pre-RP life for the benefit of single guys today, I guarantee you that it would put an end to the Skank-Ho Single Mommy dating market. No sane, self-respecting single man would ever even think about even dating, let alone marrying one of these creatures after seeing my biopic.
I’ve had those thoughts in the back of my mind too. Because the pill isn’t 100% effective against preventing pregnancy. Who knows if they had to make a second trip and became a murdering single mother to a dead kid. That to me would be more damaging to a women’s psyche than even all the cads she’s let in.
Sex and procreation go together (sodomy is just sticking the reproductive parts into the digestive parts)…clown world can’t change that.
More like God save us from the sexual revolution.
Imagine preferring a virgin now because you would know for sure she hasn’t killed her own children.
I am with Earl and Jack – the whole abortion thing should be a huge read flag. When I was wrapping up undergrad, I got entangled with 28 year old gold digger I met through the singles group at church… she initially got me with alot of one-on-one attention (i used to flirt alot back then, but never had a girlfriend) and things just escalated on their own.
She got to me with blowjobs, titty fucks, hand jobs… pretty much everything except full penis in vagina sex. In our hypocrisy, that was a line we did not want to cross given that we met at church and were going to enormous lengths to rationalize all the lines that we were crossing.
Anyway, the BJs had me hooked, and there were all sorts of red flags such as gas lighting and shit tests. I didn’t even know what to call them, but I knew that it was all shitty.
When I was on the verge of letting her go, about 6 months in (the BJs were good, but didnt justify the shit tests), she dumped on me that she had an abortion, and felt worthless, and couldnt lose a prize catch like me, and she would stop the shit tests etc etc etc. I should’ve cut ties right then and there… but i was a naive early 20 something, and she was clearly an experienced capital H, HO. Fast forward 2 years later, and the shit tests havent stopped, she’s made me become estranged from my family… she is a full out flirt with any cute, cut up masculine man that stops by church, and i am committed to be married to her (i was very beta, and was shit-tested into putting a ring on it).
Dont fear, my friends, there is a happy ending to this tale. I finally grew a pair and cut her off the morning of the wedding. YES – i am that guy who hit the lottery by walking away and avoiding a lifetime of ruin.
Had to wait a while, but eventually found a normal (not claiming she’s a nawalt) woman and she is a faithful stay at home / home-schooling mom to the children she bore me.
Your question was hot or not. It must have been rhetorical since I didn’t see a reply to it.
Challenging question because she’s not obese or odd or pierced. If she has a good smile I might say hot, but based on the photo I will say not.
One must wonder why this wimminz repeatedly seeks out violent perverts for companionship. That’s assuming that she’s not just making shit up for sympathy and attention. Most of the females who badmouth their exes fold under questioning as simple as “why isn’t this man in prison?”
Anyway, there’s no point in trying to talk sense into dudez like Mr. Milquetoast. Such men have a sort of masochistic desire to be miserable, and he’ll pat himself on his back for his heroic (and totally meaningless) sacrifices. Like the wimminz that seeks out abusive men, the masochistic brother who seeks out troubled wimminz are pursuing a primal need. It’s easier to “solve” someone else’s problems than to improve oneself.
Wait! Your mother is advising her to get into the digital brothel? Why? Does your mother hate this woman?
Feel free to send your friend (and, for that matter, your mom) over here. I’ll be glad to clue either in to what hangs out on snatch dot com. I have an account myself, in fact.
I had my heart broken for the first time by a blonde Barbie Benton look-a-like ( for you young fellas, it is totally worth googling for “young Barbie Benton”) when I was in my early 20’s. She was a nurse at the hospital I was working at and for the first 5-6 weeks we were “together” I was “deliriously” happy. I have never idea what coke or meth is like, but it couldn’t be better than how I was feeling. I even took her to meet my parents, and it turned out that my father knew her mother back in grade school. They were both crazy about her
A week later she tells me that she wants me to meet her son. FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK.
He was 4, and actually I’d never met a sweeter, nicer kid in my young life. He was really, really cute too. But, when I told my mother, I thought she was going to faint. She told me to end it and I did, knowing that I wasn’t even close to ready for anything like that.
Marriage is such a fucking gamble for men. Sometimes I wonder if I wouldn’t have been better off marrying her, since she was still early 20’s and could easily have easily me 2-3 children. We had so much more in common than the girl I eventually married. But, really, these days I know how fucking hard that would have been. That kid, sweet as he was, would have been a stranger in my house to me once my own children were born.
In our 20’s there was a long period when neither my brother nor I could seem to find an attractive girl who was single and not already a mother. He eventually ended up marrying a barren career girl. Sad, because he’d have a made a great father.
As far as single moms being expensive. My kids go to private school because the public schools are awful. Let’s say my wife gets run over by a Fedex truck today and I mean a really hot single-mom from her work at the funeral, whose kids go to the shitty public schools. Would I have to pay for them to go to private school now? Do I have to pay for their college?
The stories about Dance Teacher were told me by her mom, and I don’t have any reason to believe that she was lying; Dance Teacher gives off a clingy, rather crazy vibe. (I forgot to mention that Baby Daddy 2 was married at the time he was sleeping with Dance Teacher, but of course she had *no idea* that this was the case while she was sleeping with him. Riight.) I think you’re right about the fiance–everything I’ve discussed is public knowledge, so he knows what he’s getting into.
My mother thinks Match.com is marvelous and that some awesome man is going to meet my friend and give her the wonderful life she so richly deserves. All of this is Mom being well-meaning but delusional. (She also thought that when I was 16 and my cat died, the best thing to do would be to hide it from me, so I didn’t find out what had happened to my cat for 2 weeks.) Although she got married at age 23 to an outstanding man, loved him passionately all their lives, and was broken when he died, she has completely bizarre ideas about relationships in general; she’s expressed perfectly loony and toxic opinions about all her kids’ relationships. She has had the nerve to criticize my husband for not giving me more romantic gifts or some such garbage, but I think we’ve successfully trained her not to do that crap.
Really, looking at my relatives, I’m incredibly lucky that my husband married me; if one of my kids started a relationship with someone who had crazy family members, I’d urge EXTREME caution. It doesn’t always turn out badly (I live 3,000 miles away and keep Mom on a low-information diet), but it’s definitely a risk.
Thought of this post reading Letter 1 from the Dear Prudence advice column:
“Q. Gifts for girlfriend.s family: I have been with my girlfriend for five months. After I got a big raise at work, I decided to splurge and upgrade my TV and computer. I knew my girlfriend was raised by a single mom, .DeeDee,. and that money was tight with the two younger brothers.
Cue ominous music
I offered them my 4-year-old computer and TV. At first, my girlfriend.s mom was overjoyed. We drove down and set everything up for the kids. A week later, DeeDee texted me that her boys had destroyed both the TV and the computer and that it was my job to replace them.
No, it isn’t your job to replace the items that your girlfriend’s mother obviously sold, maybe to support a drug or alcohol habit.
I told her no.
Good.
She left a profanity-filled voice message. When I went to talk to my girlfriend, she came down on her mom.s side. It was an .accident,. and it wasn.t like I couldn.t afford to replace them. We fought.
Shouldn’t have done that; no fight necessary. Bye! Wish you the best of luck finding another sucker!
My girlfriend started to cry and I apologized to make her stop,
Ahh! No!
but I am still pissed. I am questioning my relationship with her now. I do love her, but this entire situation has put things in a different light. We are each other.s first serious relationship. What do I need to do?
Dump her, and consider yourself to have gotten off relatively cheaply.
Friggin single mothers. They are a cancer on society.